table saw placement debate
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mr douglas t
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table saw placement debate
A few friends are moving there shops and are considering tool placement. As far as table saw go, I place my saw aginst a wall. I have the saw with the besimer to the right for 53" cut . THat side of the exstention table is up against the wall. It helps save on floor space, instead of having the table saw be an island. The only draw back is I can not do a cross cut over 53". Hello, If it is over 4' I am going to go to the chop saw... What do you all think..
I think there is going to be a lot of shop layout debate here very shortly.
I understand the tablesaw against the wall for a ripping machine. I find for my cross cutter it would not always work.
For me the situation is compounded by the addition of a shaper in unison with my unisaw. This is a really nice set-up as it allows me to use the biesmeyer as the shaper fence as well. I clamp a piece of wood to the biesmeyer that has a cut out to allow the burying of the cutter into my fence. I mostly use router bits on my shaper so this is an easy set-up.
I think the other debate is which machines shouldn't be against the wall. It seems more are suited to be wall-flowers. When a large space is present it is imperative to make efficient use of the middle space as well.
Pete
I understand the tablesaw against the wall for a ripping machine. I find for my cross cutter it would not always work.
For me the situation is compounded by the addition of a shaper in unison with my unisaw. This is a really nice set-up as it allows me to use the biesmeyer as the shaper fence as well. I clamp a piece of wood to the biesmeyer that has a cut out to allow the burying of the cutter into my fence. I mostly use router bits on my shaper so this is an easy set-up.
I think the other debate is which machines shouldn't be against the wall. It seems more are suited to be wall-flowers. When a large space is present it is imperative to make efficient use of the middle space as well.
Pete
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mystry_tour
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I've never considered a tablesaw against the wall. I think I would feel cramped. I just put my tools in an order that I thought operations would allow the flow of work from one machine to the next....,what would be the wall flowers. I have a few there
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I think part of the problem of placing the tablesaw against the wall is that it limits what can be behind and in front of it. A bonus of doing it is that you can run the plug and possible dust collection along the ground beneath the saw. It definitely is a unique machine in terms of 360º access.
As I begin the laying out of a new shop I really am starting to analyze the way I work. I have had my work bench against the wall for a long time now, but am debating whether it is by circumstance or if I prefer it. I like having movable lights near my workbench which is a bonus of being on the wall, also provide outlets at my fingertips.
Pete
As I begin the laying out of a new shop I really am starting to analyze the way I work. I have had my work bench against the wall for a long time now, but am debating whether it is by circumstance or if I prefer it. I like having movable lights near my workbench which is a bonus of being on the wall, also provide outlets at my fingertips.
Pete
I am an off the wall kind of guy.
This requires an explanation...I like my primary bench off the wall for 360 degree access. I have a secondary bench with an Emmert on it against the wall. The two benches often work together to hold larger work. I spend most of my bench time between the two and I could not be more happy.
My tablesaws are off the wall but they are surrounded by other tools. The effect is comparable to being stuck up against a wall but I feel that I get the flow and feel to my shop that I am looking for. Having said this I am considering changing my layout when I move to the new shop (hopefully within the year). I am considering moving my unisaw/shaper combo closer to the wall but I have not worked this out as of yet. The driving force behind the move is that the new shop has different physical features and I will have an "new" wall that would be a good candidate.
This requires an explanation...I like my primary bench off the wall for 360 degree access. I have a secondary bench with an Emmert on it against the wall. The two benches often work together to hold larger work. I spend most of my bench time between the two and I could not be more happy.
My tablesaws are off the wall but they are surrounded by other tools. The effect is comparable to being stuck up against a wall but I feel that I get the flow and feel to my shop that I am looking for. Having said this I am considering changing my layout when I move to the new shop (hopefully within the year). I am considering moving my unisaw/shaper combo closer to the wall but I have not worked this out as of yet. The driving force behind the move is that the new shop has different physical features and I will have an "new" wall that would be a good candidate.
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mystry_tour
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I like my table so I can walk around it. I made the table a bit tallse since I am 6'1" thinking it would help from bending over. Now I wish I had made it the same hight as the rest of the machines so I could use it as an outfeed table too.
I may move the planer and joinet closer to the wall, planer against the waal and jointer outside the planer. That would make sence seeing there is no reason I can think of that a planer needs to be open all the way around
Thoughts
Reg
I may move the planer and joinet closer to the wall, planer against the waal and jointer outside the planer. That would make sence seeing there is no reason I can think of that a planer needs to be open all the way around
Thoughts
Reg
I fought to keep the Gov. in power......they keep screwing around I'll fight to get rid of them.
this topic is steered completly by how much space you have in your shop, recently I visited a shop whose layout left me rethinking machine layout, this shop was approx 40' x 60' the table saws (2), shapers (2), small moulder (1) and straightline ripsaw (1) were placed in center of space on a diaganol feeding across the 40' dimension, the remainder of machines lined the walls of shop with a generous assembly, hand tool area.
I have proved that the hardest footprint to accommadate is square or close to, my machine room is 40' x 50', my variety saws are offset and feed toward each other with stationary table connecting them, with just enough room to pass by from wall, space between is 12', this has proved great for working alone... but takes valuable real estate
a scale footprint with scale cutouts of machines is my next step in a layout reboot, finding the time to complete the task is the key
I have proved that the hardest footprint to accommadate is square or close to, my machine room is 40' x 50', my variety saws are offset and feed toward each other with stationary table connecting them, with just enough room to pass by from wall, space between is 12', this has proved great for working alone... but takes valuable real estate
a scale footprint with scale cutouts of machines is my next step in a layout reboot, finding the time to complete the task is the key