Carter or Woodworks

mystry_tour · Post by **mystry_tour** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:25 pm

I got the wheels off of the Snowflake today and am ready to ship them off. Which would be better to send them to Carter in N.J or Woodwork in WI. They are in bad need of rubber.

crzypete · Post by **crzypete** » Mon May 01, 2006 9:10 am

Mystry, I have no experience with either place, I have always done it in house. It partially depends on what type of wheels you have on the saw. Tannewitz made a saw that had a self-centering self-crowned wheel. I believe that Carter also made a similar wheel that was featured or retrofitted to many other saws. These made changing the tires painless (albeit expensive- tires for my tannewitz are more expensive than tires for my truck!)

If your wheels are of a glue on style I can walk you through doing it yourself.

Pete

mystry_tour · Post by **mystry_tour** » Mon May 01, 2006 9:15 am

Thats great Pete. Yes they are the rubber glue on type and are only $48 for the rubber type. Would be a BIG help and great saveings over sending them out to have done.
Reg

mystry_tour · Post by **mystry_tour** » Mon May 01, 2006 3:32 pm

Ordered the tires and epoxy this morning should be here in a cpl days.
Got the old rubber off this morning going back down and get all the old glue off in a few minets and try to get parts of the Oliver primered for it's new paint

crzypete · Post by **crzypete** » Tue May 02, 2006 9:07 am

Clean all the old glue off the wheels, and wipe them down with lacquer thinner.

Once the rubber arrives, you will want to get them on the wheels with no glue, This may involve yoga, and other mystical arts of body contortionism. It also may go pretty easy. You may new to do a bit of pre-stretching, or warming of the rubber. Whatever it takes, get them on.

Once they are on, you should take a piece of dowel and slip it between the tire and the wheel. You will want to make a few laps of the wheel rolling the dowel, this will make sure there is no tension spots in the rubber- it evens everything out.

Once your dowel-laps are completed, mix the epoxy and using the dowel to create access, apply it.

Once the glue dries trim the edges.

The hardest part of the job is next. The wheels need to be crowned- high in the center- this keeps the blade tracking properly. Some wheels are pre-crowned- meaning the metal has a crown and the rubber simply follows it, it this is the case you are done, crack a beer and kick back. If you need to crown the wheels yourself, you will need something stronger than beer.

Crowning of the tires is best done with the wheel on the bandsaw. This allows your crown to track true to the actual rotation of the wheel.In other words, if you wheel has a slight wobble, putting a crown that is spinning concentric to actual rotation will effectively remove that wobble in the way it tracks the blade.

In the past, I have set up a router to crown the wheels. it took a couple of position changes, and I spun the wheels by hand.

The alternate method is to crown with the wheel off the saw, this can also be done with a router. This can be much easier, but it relies on the body of the wheel being concentric to the axis which it spins on.

How much crown are we talking about? about 1/16 of an inch at the far ends of a 2" wheel should do it.

Pete

mystry_tour · Post by **mystry_tour** » Tue May 02, 2006 12:08 pm

sounds like an eventfull day of cussing, spitting, throwing things, knuckel busting good old time to me.

mystry_tour · Post by **mystry_tour** » Sat May 06, 2006 12:25 am

well I got the rubber today....guess I will try to get it started tomorrow.....I think i need to take some laquer thiner to the wheels first and make sure they're clean so i might have to wait till mon caues I am tasked with 12 hr shifts this weekend but I at least got em

mystry_tour · Post by **mystry_tour** » Thu May 11, 2006 12:46 pm

Hey junkies
I finally got around to putting the rubber on the wheels for the YA. It was pretty easy. First I drank a few cups of coffe just looking at it, intimidated by the size of the rubbr as opposed to the size of the wheel. As the caffine took its tole and my teeth begain to chatter I knew it was time to do the deed. I took a small pony clamp and calmped it in one place to anchor the rubber. Next I pulled it to the opposit side. Heres where I deviated from the instructions a bit. Insted of calmping it to the wheel at the opposit side I took a wooded jorgie and clamped to the sides of the wheel with the rubber in the center unimpaired from being bound BUT secured so it wouldn't slip off of the sides. From there it was down hill. kept deviding it in half and rolling the rubber over the sides and slipping it onto the wheel. Took about 5 minets aftre I actually got started with the frist clamp. I think the boon to this is allowing it to be able to move through the wooded jawed chuck and being able to utilize all of the strech factor insted of just half by pinning it at opposit ends and restricting the movement to 1/2....the glue should be a snap

crzypete · Post by **crzypete** » Fri May 12, 2006 7:07 pm

Glad to hear the rubber was easy, Make sure you run the dowel around to de-stress it prior to glue. Keep us posted of the progress.

Pete

mystry_tour · Post by **mystry_tour** » Fri May 12, 2006 7:41 pm

I will Pete and will have pics of how I set it up to strech the rubber too.

mystry_tour · Post by **mystry_tour** » Sun May 21, 2006 9:17 pm

Hey Pete heres the pics i promised...will start crowning next time i am off for a few days

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