New Horizontal mill
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New Horizontal mill
So, as alluded to in another thread I forget where, I may have brought home a new little toy. Ever since I ogled Mr Douglas' horizontal mill I have been insanely jealous. He saw that look in my eye and took it upon himself to help me out in typical Mr D fashion. Typical Mr D fashion is a herky jerky trip with lots of bumps along the way, but both the journey and the destination are always fun and successful.
The first stop on our trip was a tan cincinnati 2MH horizontal mill that mr D bought cheap- $200, he brought it home and started looking it over. The more he looked at it, the more issues he found. Its biggest flaw was the missing arbor supports. Its other biggest flaw was its broken rapid traverse. It minor flaw was its missing coolant pump, and its other other flaw was its sinful color. Well that pig had to go.
In search of a new pig, Mr D locates another 2MH. It is quite a bit better looking and seems to be fully functioning. He wins it at live auction for the princely sum of $300. He sends me these pics and I am hooked. He also tells me that it is much lighter than his mill, he estimates 3000lbs.
A week or so after he buys it I rent a uhaul trailer and head down his way. I get there and find he has been feeding my new pig- so much that it now weighs 4100 lbs. Well that is a lot of Hog. I guess I should have accepted the insurance on that trailer......
I arrive in the evening and after a quick shop tour and a delicious dinner, we are off to work skidding the mill.
We get it skidded and tarped and move on to loading the trailer.
Some fancy driving by Mr D.
His forklift is maxed out by the mill, it can only lift it fully when close in. The new monster skid does not allow full access. We use a teeter-totter method to get the front high enough to slide it onto the trailer
The first stop on our trip was a tan cincinnati 2MH horizontal mill that mr D bought cheap- $200, he brought it home and started looking it over. The more he looked at it, the more issues he found. Its biggest flaw was the missing arbor supports. Its other biggest flaw was its broken rapid traverse. It minor flaw was its missing coolant pump, and its other other flaw was its sinful color. Well that pig had to go.
In search of a new pig, Mr D locates another 2MH. It is quite a bit better looking and seems to be fully functioning. He wins it at live auction for the princely sum of $300. He sends me these pics and I am hooked. He also tells me that it is much lighter than his mill, he estimates 3000lbs.
A week or so after he buys it I rent a uhaul trailer and head down his way. I get there and find he has been feeding my new pig- so much that it now weighs 4100 lbs. Well that is a lot of Hog. I guess I should have accepted the insurance on that trailer......
I arrive in the evening and after a quick shop tour and a delicious dinner, we are off to work skidding the mill.
We get it skidded and tarped and move on to loading the trailer.
Some fancy driving by Mr D.
His forklift is maxed out by the mill, it can only lift it fully when close in. The new monster skid does not allow full access. We use a teeter-totter method to get the front high enough to slide it onto the trailer
Last edited by crzypete on Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Continuing on,
Mr D gets his aggressions out on a 4x4. Our night is done.
The next morning the rain is gone and we de-tarp. a bit of strapping and chain binding and I am ready to head out.
For good measure we add an I beam that I had lent Mr D- just to make sure we exceeded the trailer's rated capacity. It rides a bit low, but pretty steady.
My trip home is uneventful, my truck pulls the trailer easily and the load is well placed. It is not a scant three hours later that I am backed to my Uhaul height loading dock (still haven't poured my slab)
With the gate down it is a pretty seamless transition. I even managed to make off with Mr D's extra narrow pallet jack which proved itself the perfect tool for the narrow timbers of the skid.
Mr D gets his aggressions out on a 4x4. Our night is done.
The next morning the rain is gone and we de-tarp. a bit of strapping and chain binding and I am ready to head out.
For good measure we add an I beam that I had lent Mr D- just to make sure we exceeded the trailer's rated capacity. It rides a bit low, but pretty steady.
My trip home is uneventful, my truck pulls the trailer easily and the load is well placed. It is not a scant three hours later that I am backed to my Uhaul height loading dock (still haven't poured my slab)
With the gate down it is a pretty seamless transition. I even managed to make off with Mr D's extra narrow pallet jack which proved itself the perfect tool for the narrow timbers of the skid.
My egyptian journey down the trailer is not too bad.
I use a combination of the pallet jack, a couple of pipes, and the all important wrecking bar to inch it along.
The transition off the end of the trailer is reminiscent of the barn move- and the planks are a big reason- a couple are still coated in Ivory soap.
Before long I have singlehandedly removed it form the trailer. Only the tips of the skids prevent the doors from closing.
Fortunately I have an easy solution.
Problem.....Solved
The doors closed, I head off to return my trailer. The hour unload gets me back to the uhaul dealer with 1/2 an hour to spare- no two day rental fee for me.
The next morning I remove the skid and make two cleats cross ways so I can move it about with my pallet jack.
My mill would be good to go would it not be for the discovery of a 550v motor in there. Unfortunately I gave away the perfect motor 3 years ago- oh well. Coming soon- my WTB ad for a proper 220v motor 5hp...... low rpm.
Pete
I use a combination of the pallet jack, a couple of pipes, and the all important wrecking bar to inch it along.
The transition off the end of the trailer is reminiscent of the barn move- and the planks are a big reason- a couple are still coated in Ivory soap.
Before long I have singlehandedly removed it form the trailer. Only the tips of the skids prevent the doors from closing.
Fortunately I have an easy solution.
Problem.....Solved
The doors closed, I head off to return my trailer. The hour unload gets me back to the uhaul dealer with 1/2 an hour to spare- no two day rental fee for me.
The next morning I remove the skid and make two cleats cross ways so I can move it about with my pallet jack.
My mill would be good to go would it not be for the discovery of a 550v motor in there. Unfortunately I gave away the perfect motor 3 years ago- oh well. Coming soon- my WTB ad for a proper 220v motor 5hp...... low rpm.
Pete
Last edited by crzypete on Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Pete, that is a marvelous score! Great write up and pics. Man, I would have never attempted unloading that alone. It took three of us to move my Clausing 8520, and I thought that was five to few. She's a beautiful machine, and looks to be in great shape. So where is the ultimate landing spot in your shop? Will a 220v, 5 horse motor power that baby?
Thanks for pics, great job.
Thanks for pics, great job.
Pete,
I picked up a similar mill this fall. I haven't done much with it yet, but I've been collecting tooling and accessories for a few months. This mill came out of a machine shop in northern New Jersey. A friend very graciously picked it up and moved it to his shop in New Brunswick for me.
My main vertical mill is also a Cincinnati (ToolMaster). I love that machine. I've actually been doing more with metal than wood in the past 6 months and enjoying it.
I picked up a similar mill this fall. I haven't done much with it yet, but I've been collecting tooling and accessories for a few months. This mill came out of a machine shop in northern New Jersey. A friend very graciously picked it up and moved it to his shop in New Brunswick for me.
My main vertical mill is also a Cincinnati (ToolMaster). I love that machine. I've actually been doing more with metal than wood in the past 6 months and enjoying it.
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Nice Score...
I'm jealous. I spent some time playing around with a similar mill a while back. Congrats..
Hey Arthur, that looks to be a 2MH as well. Incredibly built machines. What blows me away is the built in power feeds on all axis- including rapid. These things just run circles arond my bridgeport- Could probably cut in in half. Not to mention the size difference of a NMTB 50 to an R8.
Tour- WHen it comes to metal working machinery and space, I find you can squeeze a lot into a little.
Jeff, You know you are always welcome to come by and use it.
Pete
Tour- WHen it comes to metal working machinery and space, I find you can squeeze a lot into a little.
Jeff, You know you are always welcome to come by and use it.
Pete
Yes it is. It's a very rigid machine. The only issue is that it uses a unique set of collets. They are readily available, but usually very pricey. I recently bought a second mill just to get the collets. I'm in the process of modifying a CAT 40 TG 100 collet holder to fit the machine. That should give me a bit more flexibility.nektai wrote:Is your cinci vertical mill as stout as the horizontal?