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Another Junkie!

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Ah, it always starts with the littlest thing... "I need more space." I said to myself. It was August of 2007, my wife and I had just bought a house with a two car garage, and I had already crammed the garage full of tools, projects, and the like.

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"Maybe a nice post and beam barn would do me some good” I thought.

So I ran some numbers, and it was somewhere around $10,000 just for lumber for the 30x60 barn I wanted to build. "Shoot, I could buy my own sawmill for less than that."

I then happened to open one of the most prestigious classified ads in my area, a nice thick booklet about 5 ½” by 8”, ¾” thick and crammed with all sorts of junk and treasures you’d want to get your hands on. Jugadro, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Well, it wasn’t long before I found an ad, that read: “Sawmill number 2 lane w/6 cyl 165hp Cont. diesel eng $1800”

I don't know about you, but I think the shortest, simplest ads are usually reserved for the best stuff you can buy. Most of the time when I see an ad going on about an item some ten lines long, that's because the seller knows it's junk and is hoping he will find some sucker to buy it.

I looked around at other sawmills for sale on-line, and most of them cost twice that, without an engine. So I knew I just had to go and look at this. It turns out, I was the first to call about it, and I set up a time to check it out the very next day, some three hour drive away.

After monotonous hours on the interstate, I had finally arrived to the house, only to find the seller’s wife pointing to the woods and saying he was in the “mill shed, somewhere down the road...” Gee whiz, it started to make me wonder how big this machine was, he has a shed just for it, hidden in the woods.

Sure enough, as I drove down the road towards a clearing in the pine forest, there was a large shed, rustic, and patched together with small logs sawed three sides for 4x4 wall studs, and rough boards over it with a metal roof on top.

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The seller had her warmed up and running by the time I arrived. The subtle tone of the diesel exhaust coming out of the straight pipe above the roofline was welcoming. A log was being passed through as the 48 inch circular blade screamed its way through the wood. The noise and wood chips flying out the blower chute outside the shed was enough for me, I was sold.

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He brought me on board, had me run the machine a couple passes, and as each board fell off the log, on top of antique iron rollers on the wooden platform next to it, he told me about how he bought it ten years ago from a couple who worked together on it to cut planks for bleachers, how it was a WWII machine, and could cut 20,000 board feet in its heyday with six guys working on it.

I began to wonder to myself “why the hell is he selling this machine? I’d be using it until my kids put me in a nursing home.” It turned out that after open-heart surgery a year and half ago, his doctor told him to cease and desist all work of that sort. But that didn’t stop him from running it a couple more passes that day, with sentiment in his eye “I’ll miss this machine” he said.

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It had been a year and half since the machine was cranked over, and belched any smoke, and there it was, humming along as if he was using it yesterday. The only thing amiss was a set of brand new marine starting batteries by the diesel engine. “Someone came in here and stole the batteries” he explained with slight disappointment. “The new ones will go with the mill.”

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I quickly wrote out a big fat check to make a large deposit on the machine, took some parting photos and planned to pick it up shortly, somehow… at least now... I knew I was truly a machine junkie!

To be continued....
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Wow, Your own sawmill???? I am popping up some popcorn and awaiting more pics. This is definitely the negative cost saving type thinking that fits in well here. Welcome aboard.

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Only one bag of popcorn Pete? you're going to have to stop by Sam's Club and get a club pack to get through this thread.

The seller was in no hurry to have the sawmill taken down and removed, so I spent a good part of September and early October scouting my 9-acre property for a good site to clear for the sawmill.

Eventually I picked a site pretty close to the house, on the other side of a small creek that flows through the property.

Claude and Glen, A couple friends of mine from work, came by one fine October day and helped me cut the trees in the area, and start clearing it. After a full day, we had an area of about 60x60 cleared out, with a short 100 foot driveway to it from the street bordering my property.

Claude sharpening Glen’s brand new chainsaw after Glen discovers it can’t cut through rock.
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Claude’s son helping out…
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My step daughter chips in too…
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And let’s not forget the wife!
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Finally all of the trees were cut down into firewood and hauled to the house, save a couple of logs that I needed to test the mill out with.

A few days later, the rental D3 showed up, and Glen came back for another stint as we started the arduous task of clearing off the topsoil and grading the sloped site somewhat flat before the truckloads of gravel showed up.
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There were a couple of trees a little too close to the street to cut down, so Claude suggested that I push them over with the bulldozer, and away from the power lines at the street.

Well, I was a rookie when it came to running a bulldozer. I figured it had to be idiot proof. The machine cooperated just fine but trees are trees. One of them was dead, and decided to snap in half as i pushed it over, so a good ten foot section thumped hard on the top of the cage of the dozer, scaring the bejesus out of me in the process.

Then another tree broke down low near the blade as I was pushing it over, and fell in the opposite direction i wanted it to go, careening towards the power lines behind me and barely missing them before it smashed into my neighbor's mailbox. Let me tell you that was not how I wanted to introduce myself to my new neighbors, but as he said to me "shit happens."

All in all, it was $700 for the dozer rental over two days (I had it for three), $1200 for the gravel I had trucked in, and $20 for my neighbor's new mailbox, which I put in the next day.

A few days later, I was going up north again to watch a friend drag race his 1940s Ford Anglia and since it was only one more hour to get to the sawmill, I thought it’d be best to go for another look and try to figure out the logistics. I brought my wife along on this trip for some hands on practice!

Here Dan, the seller, shows my wife Christy some of the finer points of the Lane Sawmill – sorry about the suck-ass picture.
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Dan cutting a cedar log up into boards
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Me, unloading the cut boards on the other end, which would be fed back through with a stack of some others to trim the sides up.
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Then it was time to go watch Jerry burn some rubber at the dragway
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Next – The truck I had to buy…and all that white shit that rained down on us…
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Only one bag of popcorn Pete? you're going to have to stop by Sam's Club and get a club pack to get through this thread.
That's ok, i don't need to eat that much popcorn- unless it is really spicy. I have a good supply of guinness now, and will drink as the story continues. If you go into extra innings, I will have to break into the scotch. :mrgreen:

I'm curious what the building regs are where you are? Mainly if you are allowed to build with non-kiln dried lumber?
Definitely enjoying the pics and story. Keep Posting!

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Pete, that was most insightful of you to mention that some town codes require kiln dried lumber to be used in new construction, that got the result of me sending a quick e-mail to the local code enforcement officer, and this is what he said to my relief; “Since you would not be building living space, there would be no problem with using green lumber.”

I’m glad to hear you’re enjoying the photos and story. I hope I don’t make it too dramatic for Steve’s sake. (let me get some more tape for the bridge of my glasses…)

And now for part three of the sawmill series…

Clearing the lot for the sawmill was easy enough, now I needed to transport it home. I had an auto transporter that I crudely converted into a flatbed with some angle iron welded across the opening in the middle, and topped off with plywood. While this could probably transport most of the parts there, I was a little hesistant to move the cast iron husk that contained the pulleys, saw arbor, and cable drum to pull the carriage back and forth on the track. This was a three-ton piece, minimum. So I decided I’d rent a five ton trailer when I needed it.

Meanwhile I had this little 1987 dodge Dakota pickup that my father bought new when I was a little kid and since then, passed on to me. The engine had just been rebuilt after 250,000 miles of service, but I had put it back together in a hurry and the intake manifold was leaking coolant, so I’d have to tear it down a little more to fix it. Plus it wouldn’t get a sticker with the rust holes, cracked windshield, and a screwdriver for a ignition key. I was fortunate to have the truck registered in Georgia during my college years, so it never required a sticker…until now.

I finally convinced myself (and my wife) to buy another truck, albeit used. I always wanted a diesel pickup truck so I could convert it to vegetable oil later on when I had the time to. So that boiled down to a limited choice of trucks, a Dodge 2500, GMC 2500, or a Ford F250/350. The ford super duty diesels were more commonplace, and cheaper so I settled on a 1999 to 2003 7.3L diesel.

With a stepdaughter, and possibly another child on the way in the future, I knew it would have to be an extended cab. I didn’t like crew cabs, as they were ridiculously long and were often beat up work trucks to begin with.

It also HAD TO be a long bed. My Dakota was a short bed, and it was a pain in the ass to not be able to load a full sheet of plywood or drywall into the truck and be able to close the door on it. It always required some sort of jury rigged hold-down to ensure it wouldn’t slide out of the back while driving. I personally think pickup trucks shouldn’t even be built with short beds, but apparently, there are people out there who prefer these.

After weeks of searching, I went back to that infamous classifieds booklet I mentioned earlier, and came across a 2000 F350 diesel, long bed, which had a CREW CAB. But it was a good price, so I thought “well, it’d beat having to open my door, then the third door behind it…" It didn’t take me long to get hooked to that crew cab.

At 12 grand, it was a good buy. However, the oil pan was leaking because of a rust hole. “You got to be kidding me” I thought to myself, it’s a 2000. How the hell can an oil pan rust through in 7 years? It just comes to show you how bad the winters up here are.

That wasn’t the worst of it, because it was a diesel engine, the motor was too large for the oil pan to be removed without pulling the engine out first. Which was a $1,500 job. *sigh* Fortunately, the seller agreed to split it.

After my family and I went to Disney world for our vacation over thanksgiving week, I was able to pick up the truck from the shop in late November. I was now ready to pull some serious shit.

By then, it had been snowing, and kept on snowing. I couldn’t believe how much snow we were getting this year. I couldn’t even use either of my snowmobiles over the last two years, leave alone a sled. Now the snowmobiles were under so much snow I couldn’t dig them out. The more we got, the less likely I was going to be able to pick up the sawmill before spring.

Round’ came January, near the end of the month it all started melting as we had a warm spell. For a while, I thought I had caught a break, until it started raining. Now there was ice all over the snow on the ground, and to make it worse, it was our first winter at our new house, and I finally understood why the last owners made it clear that the driveway had to stay clear of snow in front of the garage. All the melting snow and rain was now running down the driveway, over the packed snow, and under the garage doors. I no longer had a two car garage. I now had two cars parked in an indoor skating rink.

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It didn’t take long before this little snowblower was frozen to the floor, rendering it useless.

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The ice kept coming in, that soon enough the entrance door to the garage would be frozen shut as the ice went higher than the bottom of the door. I had to keep the garage overhead door slightly ajar so I could maintain access into the garage, but this made the problem worse as more water would melt off and flow into the garage freely.

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The ice dam on the metal roof was slowing sliding off, tearing the gutter off with it as I tried to break it up without much success. See how much snow we had on the other roof, and around the jeep in the background. This was even after it had rained for a couple days…

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Part 4: THE FORK TRUCK

It was early-mid May, and all that white shit was still on the ground. I don’t know why anyone in their mind would live this far north. I was ready to move to Florida and be done with all this shoveling, snowblowing, and that damn plow truck that keeps going by RIGHT AFTER I JUST FINISHED SHOVELING. Then again, the last thing I need, are hurricanes. So forget Florida.

With my garage still an indoor skating rink, and the sawmill snow-bound, there wasn’t much to do except look through the classifieds for more goodies. It always makes my wife nervous, but what she doesn’t know, won’t hurt her (until I buy it that is).

It wasn’t long before I came across a forklift for sale. It apparently was in running condition and the seller only wanted to get the best offer he could get for it. This was in craigslist, and the picture was downright ugly. I knew I’d need something to lift the green beams off the sawmill after I had cut them out of a log, and it sure would help when I went to pick up the pieces and loaded them onto the trailers.

I thought I’d give it a look, and offered $250 for it. It had to be worth at least $500 in scrap, but the guy asked someone else at the shop if that was “doable” then we shook on it.

It needed a new rear tire, a battery, and that was about it. With all the snow on the ground, I left it there for a month before I finally picked it up in April.

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It was an old WWII era forklift, which was also used by the US Army. The engine is a flathead four cylinder continental and I’ve been told it’s almost bulletproof (no pun intended)…

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Part 5 – The first sawmill piece comes home!

When I picked up the forklift, the snow had melted enough for Dan to clear the rest of it from the road to the sawmill shed, so I took the forklift straight up there the next day with the same rental 5-ton tilt trailer.

As soon as we got there, I had the sawmill engine disconnected and ready to be loaded onto the trailer. The forklift then started to run funny. It kept stalling out, and couldn’t run long enough to pick up the engine and load it onto the trailer for the trip home. Finally I put new spark plugs in (which I had the good sense to buy and bring with me as I picked the forklift up) and it ran like a beauty after that.

The engine was strapped in, and we were finally headed home with the first piece!

The sawmill site was still covered by about three feet of snow, so I paid a guy down my road $150 to clear it with his front end loader. The engine was placed at the end of my driveway in the meantime as the rental trailer had to be returned on Monday morning.

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Part Six – Buying the Oliver Track Loader

Another boring day browsing craigslist landed me another great find. A 1958 Oliver OC-46 was being advertised for $1,700 with a rebuilt engine that was ready to go back in.

However, it was a royal basket case when I went to look at it. Fortunately the seller was willing to take a partial trade of a stack of beams I had bought some time before buying the sawmill with the intent of stockpiling wood to build the barn with. Now I had a sawmill, I decided to trade away the wood instead and cut more later. So the price was reduced to $700 with about 1,500 board feet of beams traded in. I took the track frames and rollers home with me that day in my car, which was a true test of its strength and handling at 70mph on the interstate.

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I must have had several hundred pounds of iron in there, and it sure didn't like going 75 as it would weave side to side ever so slightly.
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Part Seven - Moving the carriage

Man, I wish I had taken a picture of the forklift in the shed, taking the carriage off the track and backing up far enough for the trailer to be moved in under the carriage before we lowered it back down onto the trailer, but I was too busy driving the forklift and trying my best not to tip the thing over with me in it…we had used a chain from the top of the mast to the back of the carriage, so once I had the forks lifting it up a little, I tilted the mast backwards to lift it clear off the track. This was an act of insanity that gets some people elected into the Darwin awards www.darwinawards.com

It was the weekend after Danny and I picked up the engine. This time, we brought my
“flatbed” auto transporter to bring the carriage (and we had hoped, a 15’ piece of the track too, but didn’t). The 48” saw blade went into the back of the truck with a 6’ short piece of track and a pile of wood blocking. It was coming home slowly, but surely.

The driveway to the sawmill site had never been driven on, so I was a little nervous about backing the trailer down there. So, rather than get the truck and trailer stuck knee deep in mud, I thought it would be wise to park it on the driveway for now…where it sat next to the engine.

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As you can see, all the snow around the driveway at the time i took these photos, had melted away, so I had paid that dude $150 to clear the sawmill site some three weeks before, for nothing. At least I would have my own front loader next winter...if I get the Oliver loader back together by then...
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Tomorrow I'm hoping to have the 48" circular blade mounted onto the sawmill arbor, and that will be the last piece that I need, before I can start cutting logs.

Meanwhile, bear with me as I'm trying to catch up on the history behind moving that sawmill here, and the domino effect it had on my rapid accumulation of more old iron.

More photos and stories to come.

Cheers

Matt
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Hi Matt, I think I am speechless after the last barrage of posts. WOW! I do not think your car will ever be the same after that haul.

I am guessing you are in MAine from the vacationland license plate, I am glad they will let you use your own cut lumber. My building was done with siding from the local sawyer and there were no problems with that. Of course that means you need a planer/molder type deal- I guess that is why you were checking out that beast that was listed in the classifieds.

Anyhow, I am definitely looking forward to the next installment.

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Great news!! My wife just delivered a healthy baby boy yesterday morning at 9:32am. We rushed to the hospital some half a hour away at 7:30am and were barely there for two hours before the kid popped out. I'm still reeling from the experience.

But I disgress. That's not why I came online. As soon as I got my boy home with my wife this afternoon, I was already e-mailing someone about a planer/molder that no one had bid on a few times it went on ebay (from $2,200 down to $1,400). I offered him a grand, and we haggled to 1,100. So he relisted it at that price for me and I bought it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0295156719

That's a four-sided planer, none less.

Looking at the S.A. Woods catalog on the OWWM website, page 32 and 33, it defintely looks like the No. 4 outside moulding machine.

http://www.owwm.com/mfgIndex/pubdetail.aspx?id=414

I thought the most it could do when i bought it, would be 8" wide and maybe 2" thick. It wasn't until i read this catalog when I realized that it can do stock up to 14" thick! That should handle most of the beams i want to do for the barn, plus the T&G paneling, etc. It's currently set up for novelty siding, but comes with a basket full of various bits for other shapes.

Now I have to bring THAT baby home....
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Congratulations on the growing family and the growing collection of insane woodworking tools!

Do you need a new building for the latest purchase?
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Oh yeah, I defintely will want a building for it all. Ideally, I'd like the planer to be in the same building as the sawmill, but i don't have a concrete slab under the sawmill or a building over it yet.

I am planning on doing a pole barn building with wooden trusses over the sawmill, then add the concrete floor later.

Right now I'm thinking of pouring a 20x15 slab someplace for this planer, and place it there. Then build a shed over it with doors on both ends to open when running material through it. I can always use a portable garage/shelter over it until I process enough lumber to build the shed itself.

The machine is some 9 feet long, and the engine goes on the side so I'm not sure how wide it is yet. I'll have to go on site and measure it as i pick it up before I can say with any certainity how big the shed needs to be.

Matt
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Hey Matt,

Congrats on your new boy.

and on the planer as well. If the description is correct, it is actually located about 10 minutes from my old shop- how bizarre. If you need a towing company to help load I would look up tony's towing in ellenville.

I can;t make much out of those photos- It is super tough looking at crappy photos of something which I know nothing about.

I would definitely suggest bringing more than your car for this trip. :roll:

Can't wait to see more pics of the planer. When do you make the trip?

Pete
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I'm home for a couple days, so I finally sat down at the computer and caught up on the latest in the MJ forums, and now the saga continues...Pete, is that big bag of popcorn still there? maybe a little stale by now but...

The engine and carriage were home, so we returned to the site to pick up the sawmill husk. We bought more jacks and beams with us to jack it up high enough for the trailer to back underneath it and set it down on there.

Since my forklift was already there, we used it to jack up one end, while using various hydraulic manual jacks on the other end, jacking and blocking until it was some 3' in the air. I wish i had taken photos at this point, but didnt...

Finally, we had the trailer backed in and the unit lowered onto the trailer before we cut off the beams running perpendicular to the trailer, so we could minimize the side to side clearance, which i'm sure was over the 108" limit on the interstate by a few inches. (Where's that wide load sign when you need it?)

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When we got back, the new driveway to the mill had dried up and firmed enough for me to back the trailer down that way with a degree of confidence, and we off-loaded the husk rather quickly, jacking it up just enough to drive the trailer out and left it on blocking for now. Anyone want to lie down under this??

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The husk is made of cast iron, and has "Lane Manufacturing Co., Montpelier, VT USA" cast onto it. Strangely, it does not say what number mill it is, but the seller advertised it as a No.2 and the only castings i've seen on those husks with a number below it, are for No.1 so I'll take his word for it.

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There were a few areas on the wooden frame under the husk that showed significant rotting and cracking from being on a slab for so many years. Eventually the wood will either be replaced with new wood or a concrete foundation.

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For now, I bought a pair of new 8x8 beams to set the rotting 8x8 beams on top of, to reinforce them, and maintain the height i need for the blade to clear the ground. Eventually, I'd want to create a slab with a pit for the blade to go below the floor and allow the sawmill to be lowered as much as possible, so the carriage tracks are almost flush with the floor, allowing me to roll logs onto it with ease rather than build a elevated work platform that existed around the mill before i removed it.

Danny and I got to work lowering the 3 ton husk assembly to a less scary height...Note the new 8x8s sitting on the ground below the husk frame...

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At one point, when I had stepped away to get something from the garage or the house, danny kept going at it and the load shifted before it tipped off the blocking. Fortunately it was only about a foot off the ground at the time and he wasn't in a position to get hurt. Let this be a lesson to some of you, Rigging is dangerous work and must never be done alone. The wood frame under the husk didn't sustain much damage, so once we got it jacked back up and rotated it back to the original position, all was well.

Next to come is the reassembly of the mill...
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It was getting warmer, and the sawmill husk was now plumb and level on a new pair of 8x8's. The time had come to put the track together and for that, my uncle came by with a bobcat to help buddy and I move the track pieces in place, before putting the carriage on and the engine in position.

He showed up with this really wicked trailer that had a bed which could raise and lower in between the wheels. Defintely on my wish list!

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I had already placed solid concrete blocks into the ground to serve as foundations for the track as i had done for the sawmill husk. They were placed and leveled with a laser level the night before, and stacked onto with wood cribbing to get the height i needed to be level with the husk.

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We chained each piece of track to the bobcat and hoisted them into place. the longest two were about 15 feet and were too heavy for the three of us to pick up.

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Once we had the track sections in place, we decided to go ahead and place the carriage on top of the track, and i'd bolt the track together later. The carriage was almost too heavy for the bobcat to pick up, as soon as we had it in the air, the bob cat was pratically moving on its front two wheels and my uncle had to restrain from stopping too quickly or it would tip forward before rocking back upright.

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Then we used the uber cool trailer to go up my other driveway and pick up the diesel power unit. We used the bobcat to push it onto the trailer before driving it around and pulling it off.

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Pushing it onto the trailer with the bobcat had split one of the wooden skids underneath the engine, so I had to replace those before continuing to assemble the mill. That came another day.

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The belts then went on. They were massive v-belts, nothing I'd had seen on cars or trucks, and four belts were all that were needed out of eight v-belt grooves on both pulleys. The slack was taken up and belts tightened using a old Model A screw type jack between the engine skids and the sawmill husk frame.

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The tracks were bolted together using sections of C-channel steel on each side of the 6x8 track frames and half inch bolts going through from one steel plate to the other side through the frame. threaded rod were also placed from the crossmember of one section through the crossmember of the next section. You can see the braces and rod in the left of the photo (although I didn't place the cabling around the winch drum until after the first power run).

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Next - upgrading the power unit...
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Great stuff!

Is the plan to use the mill to make the wood for its own building? Will you be pouring a slab under it some day?

I rented one of those trailers once. It made moving my shop so much easier. Ever since that rental I have dreamt about owning that trailer with a skid steer...It is nice to see that combo put to such good use.
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I will defintely use the mill to make wood for its own building some day, but i am still divided on what kind of building to do... I would ideally, like to have 20' spans for the logs to go in and beams to come out. The track is long enough to permit me to cut logs up to 25' if i recall correctly, but 20' will do. So a post and beam barn may be difficult to do with those spans, but not impossible, and it could provide me with a second story for a wood shop. A pole barn is another option, or a stick building altogether.

It is also my goal to use this mill to build a post and beam home, and then the horse barn after that, a maple sugar shack, and the list goes on.

I've always enjoyed woodworking and would like to eventually make all the trim, doors, cabientry, and flooring for the house as well, once that is all done, I can start building furniture and replacing the goodwill/walmart furniture items that we have hodge podged together over the years.

I will be starting a thread soon on my woods four-sided planer shortly. That is a project in itself. With that and the mill, and my rockwell router table, wood lathe, etc, I will be able to manufacture many pieces straight from the forest.

Once i get the sawmill dialed in, I'll have to think about building some sort of solar kiln to santize the green lumber and drying it along with a dehumidifer before it can be used for residential buildings. green lumber or lumber that isn't kiln dried, can be used for garages or barns around here though.

As for a slab, I am waiting to see if we can sell our current home this summer and move closer to work (my wife's commute changed from 15 minutes to 1hr 15 minutes, and mine went up from 45 to 60 minutes. We are looking for land closer to where we work and build the post and beam home there. Hopefully, if all goes well, I will be able to pour a slab or foundation for the sawmill there and move it one more time. It should be much easier the second time around. I do wish I had poured a slab the first time around as the concrete blocks I've used for footing pads have sunk in some places, twisting the mill out of alignment as I'll elaborate further in this thread.
-DumDum
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