multiple machine layouts

dadude · Post by **dadude** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:56 pm

i am in the process of a new machine layout for my shop and open to ideas about multiple machine placement or nesting to make more efficent use of space. the pic posted is curious (not my shop) my machine area is 40 x 50

nektai · Post by **nektai** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:23 am

Dadude,

Space considerations in my shop had me thinking about the same issues. Machines in my shop are positioned to maximize space and create a pleasing workflow, for me it was an exercise like playing a game of Tetris.

The only "combined" station of machines that I have is this combination of pre 1946 Delta Unisaw and Shaper. They are married under a Biesmier fence that serves both machines.

Are you planning a radical re-working of your machine layout or just some minor tweaking?

dadude · Post by **dadude** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:43 am

nektai,

the siamese delta's are perfect, i have posted a pic of my oliver jointer's, did not go looking for two, ended up that way. my machine area of shop is slightly over square, not the best for layouts including 37" widebelt, 10"sliding saw, etc. so the nesting approach is important for my situation appreciate the feedback

best,
dadude

dadude · Post by **dadude** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:56 am

nektai, the crown lift certainly qualifies for ''simple shop improvements" i would be lost without mine

crzypete · Post by **crzypete** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:29 pm

here is a good way to store two crowns. I think it is also how you get more crowns

dadude · Post by **dadude** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:41 pm

thats good, how about a topic on machinery moves or trailer stories

nojo · Post by **nojo** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:53 pm

dadude-

Please consider painting the drywall before you finish moving the machines. It makes such a difference...

dadude · Post by **dadude** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:37 am

not in the market right now for an interior designer, but thanks. we were considering venetian plaster for the walls

dadude · Post by **dadude** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:49 am

sorry nektai, did not catch your commnet under the pic... radical reworking of layout, minor tweaking has been ongoing and no longer effective

nektai · Post by **nektai** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:13 am

No problem, I caught that after I made the post.

I once had the flu at the perfect time because it forced me to stop moving long enough to make little cardboard cut outs of my machines which I moved around a scaled drawing of my shop. By the time I stopped being sick i had a very well thought out shop layout. What is your method and when will you have time to take on such a big project?

dadude · Post by **dadude** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:29 am

nektai, very good suggesstion, my timetable is between jobs in a month or so, my flow is so poor right now everyday work is interupted by having to move or shift something for clearance, not good. visited a shop recently that had planer, shapers (2), straight line rip and table saw, small molder placed on diagonal in center of floor plan in (4) groups and remainder of machines around perimeter, really the best layout i have seen for my kind of cabinet/millwork business. your shop looks very well orginized, it really makes a difference

crzypete · Post by **crzypete** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:53 am

Don't forget to design for dust collection. With the price and pain of erecting the ductwork, it can be a major savings to group machines for an efficient system.

I think the ultimate shop might be a theater with a moveable stage set. Basically having different sets of machines on multiple elevators that come and go at the push of a button-

Pete

dadude · Post by **dadude** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:19 pm

dust collection main is in place centered on the floor plan, will have to add some laterals as layout changes, big one will be the return air system, only exhaust at this point, no return

mr douglas t · Post by **mr douglas t** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:39 pm

I recently moved my metal working machines into the new metal shop. I have always had the bridgeport up on blocks to keep me from bending over, so the drill press fit right in. I spun the foot around and placed the brigeport back down. Now I can sweep right in front of the drill press.

dadude · Post by **dadude** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:27 am

ouch